Ukraine and Russia- Don't believe the media!
Do your own research if you want to have a chance at having an informed opinion.
Putin is not a madman. I know this for sure because the MSM says he is and they never tell the truth! Plus I have listened to him for years. He is extremely intelligent , diplomatic, banned George Soros NGO's in Russia, and has been fighting the New World Order for years....just to name a few things. The Eastern Ukrainians have been trying to have their own republics for years This is an internal conflict . Ukraine has been bombing the eastern Ukrainians for years It is a civil war. The Minsk Agreement was signed to try to end the conflict "According to the provisions of the agreement, apart from establishing an immediate ceasefire in the Donbass region, the government in Ukraine agreed to make provisions for greater autonomy to Donetsk and Lugansk Oblasts (Regions), the centers of rebellion, by first recognizing the right to self-government and also creating special status for the regions in the parliament. It was a necessary condition for them to remain within Ukraine" The Minsk agreement has never been implemented. "Over 1.2 million residents of the Donbass region have already applied for Russian citizenship out of a total estimated population of 6 million. Russian-speaking people form an overwhelming majority in both of the self-declared republics. They fear that if the international community abandons their cause, they will face another war and ethnic cleansing by the Ukrainian state. Successive governments in Kiev have not paid much attention to addressing the issue of the Donbass region and have failed to initiate moves to implement the Minsk Agreement. So the 2 separatists regions asked Russia for help We have been meddling in Ukrainian affairs for years. We decided that regime change was in order in Ukraine and spent over a billion dollars to instigate one and successfully ousted a sitting president and put our own sock puppet government in place- one that was more friendly toward the EU and NATO and there are many Ukrainians who oppose both.
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Is it so difficult to understand why Putin would not want NATO and the Western world 's animosity toward Russia on his doorstep? He has watched our meddling in Ukraine and seen us trying to manipulate Ukraine into being a part of the West and turning them against Russia. It is obvious that we aspire to control Russia , not dialogue with them. We refuse to treat them as an equal in the world. We aspire to subjugating them as opposed to existing along side them.
What is happening in Ukraine is an ongoing internal civil conflict. Ukraine has been using their military force against the eastern Ukrainians for many years. They want to subjugate them and make them be part of the New Ukraine-the pro EU, pro NATO that aspires to be part of Europe while forgetting its traditional ties to Russia. The Eastern Ukrainians want their independence and do not want to be part of the West. This is a civil war and we should leave their civil wars to be worked out by them -- but no, the world has to get involved because we want Ukraine to be part of the west so that we CAN be on Russia's doorstep. Eastern Ukrainians identify as Russian, their heritage and their identity. There are 6 million of them. Do we not see them as Ukrainian too? We act like all of Ukraine sees this as a Russian invasion and that is just not true. Is it so hard to understand that the Eastern Ukrainians might see it as the world turning against them and ask for Putin's help?
If everybody would stay out of everybody else's business, the world would be a happier and more peaceful place. But it appears that we are incapable of doing that.. Someone always seems to feel the need to impose themselves into world affairs instead of letting things work themselves out organically. If people ask for help, that is one thing. But it seems far too many western nations, especially the US, just have to insinuate themselves into situations and try to impose our own will on others...I wish that the new global model could just be a live and let live attitude... but alas, perhaps societies have not matured enough for the pursuit of such a lofty goal as peaceful coexistence.
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I am quickly becoming an apologist for Putin because the lies of MSM, the stories and agenda pushed by Soros and WEF tell my gut that Putin is the one who is fighting for Ukrainians and for me. They have lied about Putin continuously for years. Why would everyone suddenly believe that what they are saying about him is true now? Putin is NOT a madman! He is the most level headed world leader in this whole mess. He is trying NOT to kill civilians. He is trying to protect them regardless of where they are. The Ukrainian army has been fighting and KILLING the Eastern Ukrainians without any hesitation or seemingly any pangs of conscience for the last 8 years. And they are doing that now but blaming it all on Russia. Russia's aim is not imperialism. It is not to take territory from Ukraine. Russia's aim is to protect the Russian Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine. If Ukraine would have implemented the Minsk agreement that it signed in 2015 at any time up to the present , this would not be happening. They were supposed to give the 2 groups in the Dombas Region more autonomy. and a special voice in parliament. They have done nothing. The 2 groups had declared their autonomy in 2014 after the US instigated coup ousted the Russian friendly govt and a pro EU/NATO puppet govt was installed. But they had not been recognized as autonomous,,,until now. Recently these 2 New Republics were recognized by Russia. They have asked Russia for help. In this context, there is no invasion by Russia. Putin is giving the help that was asked for by these 2 new Republics. Though , make no mistake, Putin will not tolerate NATO on its borders but the eastern Ukrainian territory does not need to be part of Russia to accomplish that. Russia is not trying to kill civiians but the Ukrainian military is not off limits. The way Putin was portrayed with the war in Georgia, Crimea and now with Ukraine was not and is not true. In fact projection seems to be a consistent and common trait of the western MSM. What they say the 'enemy' is doing is actually what we ourselves are doing.
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My response to Les Fridman's video :
Oliver Stone: Vladimir Putin and War in Ukraine | Lex Fridman Podcast #286
Putin did not make a mistake in going into Eastern Ukraine. He wanted the Donbass Region to remain within Ukraine and Ukraine to remain neutral. Neutral is a line in the sand that he will not tolerate to be crossed. He sees it as Russia's survival as a sovereign nation He has waited 8 years for Ukraine to implement the Minsk agreements that they signed.which was the necessary condition for the separatist groups in the Donbas Region to agree to remain within Ukraine. But we did not want the Minsk agreement to be implemented. just as we do not want to negotiate for peace. We do not want a neutral Ukraine because we do not want to coexist with Russia. We want to subjugate and dominate them. It would not have been the right decision to surrender the Donbass Region because we will not stop. It would not have been the humane decision either because the Nazi controllers of Ukraine HATE the Russian Ukrainians. They want to kill them and will kill until there is not one iota of resistance left. They have been executing a genocidal ethnic cleansing in Eastern Ukraine for the last 8 years. So Putin finally recently recognized the 2 republics who declared their autonomy in 2014. They have been asking for Putin's help for years and now he has gone into the Donbass Region to help them and to get rid of the Nazi Azov battalion that has been fighting and killing them for years and he has taken out a few of OUR biolabs as he goes. Putin is defending Russia and the Eastern Ukrainians. We left him no other choice!
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My Response to BCP's video at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzFcmoqgMY
It was NOT an unprovoked attack. Putin is NOT lying. He is not the bad guy. They lied about Putin continuously for years to undermine Trump. They lied about Trump continuously and you know it. What would make you think that they are not lying about Putin now? It is still the same 'Russia Russia Russia' story to hide their own lies and bad deeds. PSAKI SAYING 'DON'T BE SURPRISED IF RUSSIA LAUCHES A CHEMICAL ATTACK SOUNDS MORE LIKE PROJECTION TO ME- ACCUSING THE OTHER GUY OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
Russia did not INVADE Crimea.. Both they and Ukraine had Naval Headquarters in Svastopol, Crimea and Russia was allowed to have 10,000 troops on the ground there.
All this crap started when we decided a regime change was in order in Ukraine and we and our instigators successfully stirred the pot and a duly elected pro Russian president who won a close and hotly contested election was ousted and a pro EU/Nato patsy was put in his place (kind of like what the democrats did in our election). Kiev then sent troops into Crimea because they did not want Russia's Naval Headquarters, which was there legally, to be there. The people of Crimea and the 2 separatist groups in Donbas region, who are mostly of Russian heritage and identify as Russian wanted no part of this new pro EU Ukraine, because they are NOT European. They are Russian.
The Autonomous Republic of Crimea within the territory of Ukraine, who had their own parliament separate from the parliament in Kiev, had a referendum and voted overwhelmingly, over 95%, to ask Russia to annex them.
As for the present day situation, Ukraine has been bombing its own citizens in the Donbas Region in Eastern Ukraine for 8 years since this regime change. In 2014 and 2015 the Minsk agreements were signed by Ukraine with the 2 separatists groups in Eastern Ukraine in an effort to stop this fighting. Ukraine NEVER implemented the agreements that they signed. They never stopped fighting and bombing the Eastern Ukrainians, who I might add are also Ukrainians. They are never acknowleged when the media says 'Stand with Ukraine'. They have also asked Russia for help as their 'ethnic cleansing' continues. Let me reiterate, Putin is not the bad guy here and, imho, he has had the patience of Job, which seems to be a requirement these days if WWIII is to be avoided.
We just keep poking the bear and then blame it on the bear when he reacts. Putin said years ago that Ukraine was off the table when it comes to being a member of NATO because he will not tolerate having missiles aimed at Russia on his border, just as we would not and did not tolerate having Russian missiles aimed at us in Cuba. Neither of which are unreasonable demands .
Besides all of that, Putin has been fighting the NWO for years and it seems to me that it is still the NWO that he is fighting in Ukraine, not the Ukrainians.
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What is the Minsk Agreement, and what’s its role in the Russia-Ukraine crisis?
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